Tim Sweeney was on hand to talk all things Epic Games with the staff at Polygon. Along the way, he had some really interesting things to say about Microsoft.

This is in context of Steam, which is receiving Epic’s support, knocking on the door of Windows gaming. Tim isn’t talking so much about Xbox here as Windows itself, especially Windows 8.

Here’s what Tim has to say about Windows 8:

Tim also explains in the interview that he has been dealing with Microsoft directly for the past six months and has given them support as well:

Steam has been a great democratizing factor on PC and if Microsoft forecloses on PC then all developers will shift to other alternatives, like Steambox and Android.

Are these the changes Phil Spencer has been telling us about for months? Or is this merely the prelude for something even bigger to happen in the future? We definitely prefer the latter, and will make sure to keep you up to date when Phil and Microsoft finally reveals their cards.